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Monday, August 3, 2009

H.R. 3400: The Republican Answer to the Democrats on Healthcare

Here is a Link to Download.

Notice Jeff Miller's name near the top of sponsors. Give him a "Atta Boy!"

Once more, I've sent this to the RNC and RPOF for their analysis and help to get the republican message up.

We should have talking Points at our fingers with regards to this.

Get off the POT!

UPDATE: Here is the Anti- Obamacare Commercial ABC and NBC redused to Run

UPDATE 2: Here is more information on Republican alternatives to Healthcare

UPDATE 3: Here is another Effort by the Republicans to reform Healthcare

UPDATE 5: Feel free to go directly to my Blog and read more articles on different subjects: http://www.bloggybayou.com/

MAJOR UPDATE: HERE IS THE LINK TO DOWNLOAD THE DEMOCRAT 1900 PAGE BILL PROPOSED ON 30 OCTOBER 2009!

MAJOR UPDATE: HERE IS THE GOP SITE WITH THE LATEST PROPOSALS
Posted by E.R. White, Jr at 12:58 PM
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20 comments:

  1. Method to water-down real health care reform!
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  2. Republicans had many years to introduce legislation to provide meaningfull changes to healthcare. They did not do so. Now they scramble to provide legislation only in an effort of party politics to defeat legislation proposed by others.
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  3. After ruining our economy, getting us into an illegal war, ruining our credibility around the globe with the uncontested worst president in history, the repubs now have the gall to subvert attempts to fix things. Taking money from insurance companies to kill health reform (maybe they can drop our standing from 37th in the world) taking money from banking interests to kill regulation. Wake up people!
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  4. To All you gutless wonders named Anonymous, Get a Clue, Wake up to Obama's plans to destroy America. Do your own homework, examine all the thugs that are advising Obama. They are all Chicago Mob Crooks and if you had 1/2 a brain you would know it. Bush can't be blamed NOW, the responsibility for this current mess is Obama's and he needs to take ownership.
    Stew in Georgia
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  5. Anonymous- : lacking individuality, distinction, or recognizability. Kind of like a sheep in a herd, esp. a herd headed for slaughter.
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  6. All marxists must...go
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  7. Steve in Georgia, you are just like your gutless and fearful friends. You all gave Bush 8 years to mess this damn country up, and not even allowing President Obama(you going to address him properly)8 months to implement his ideas. If this was Hillary in office you all wouldn't be so quick to judge and make false claims before hearing and seeing for yourself. "Wake up to Obama's plan to destroy Ameria". You sound as ignorant as your leader Rush the-Lynch-Bomb and Hatenity. Sprewing unfounded statements and deep rooted southern hatred out of your mouth. If President Obama came on the air right now and said the sky was blue, you all would be campaigning that it's actually light blue. Because of who he is, and not what he is, you with your deep rooted hatred will never give him a chance. HR3200 is just a watered-down version of HR3400. GOP no matter what, to keep their friends happy will never approve or agree on anything Obama said. This country is an embarrassment!
    Theresa from Georgia
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  8. Correction on last post: HR3400 is just a watered-dwon version of HR3200...Oh as for the crap that was pulled in Arizona with the gun wearing "protesters"....if that was any other President, no matter what the state law is, that would not have happened. GOPs are allowing the respect of the Presidency to be sacrificed for the gain of votes? That's absolutely disgusting and an outrage.
    Theresa from Georgia
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  9. This bill DOES NOT address in a meaningful way the core issues of escalating costs, patient quality or safety, all of which are major concerns for those of us in healthcare. But then neither does the Democratic bill in the House.

    If we do not control the costs NOW, the hit to Medicare, the government healthcare plan for the elderly, will be overwhelming. We will not be able to afford national defense or any government programs within 25 years. It is THAT bad: Medicare is at $37 trillion in unfunded liabilities today, according to David Walker, former Controller General of the Public Accounts.

    This is not a DEM or a GOP problem -- this is a NATIONAL security issue.

    We need to lose the paranoia and hate and think about working together. We cannot grow ourselves out of this problem. Nor can we cut costs by barring all malpractice claims (2% of the total cost today), eliminating all waste, etc. In fact, if you close the Pentagon, eliminate all government waste and fraud, you can only cover about 15-20% of the Medicare liabilities.

    So lets stop focusing on the silly indoctrination issues, the talk of succession, of rebellion, etc. Let’s demand that our government leaders work together to solve the problems.

    And to make it interesting, lets insist they pass a law that precludes ANY formal campaigning for elected office until 90-days before the election for House and Senate, and 280 days for President. Now THAT will save a lot of money, and spare us a lot of lying, screaming, and shouting.
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  10. I still have to go over HR3400 with a fine tooth comb, but this certainly seems like a viable alternative. It provides for those who can't afford coverage now AT LOT sooner, it doesn't exyend the federal government's power and it just plain makes sense! If your goal truly is covering the uninsured, this is an answer. However, if your goal is government control of the lives of individuals, I see why you wouldn't like it!
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  11. I keep reading the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION and can not find anywhere that gives the gov. the right to take control of my personal health care, and then dictate how. Nor can I find where the gov. has the right to make me pay for other peoples health care.
    This is a loss of freedom for me!!
    They are not upholding or defending the US Constitution.
    Happy to see Van Jones gone. What a truly ignorant man. Mark Loyd should be next!!!!!!!!!!
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  12. First of all Theresa from Georgia and other anonymous bloggers the man in Arizona that was shown with the weapons was black and if you do not like this country anymore you are free to go to your socialist paradise. Just to make it clear I was critical of Bush too. We are going to trust the same government to run health care that ran the post office, medicare, social security into the ground. There are other options such as tort reform, medical savings accounts, caps on lawsuit payouts, you lose you pay, open state lines. There is no reason to rush our country into the ground with this bill. Larry form Texas
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  13. Mr. Self.

    It is NOT a "national security" issue.
    It's a political issue that liberals promote because their experiences and/or knowledge from other lands that have socialized meds or "single payer" systems indicates that this kind of thing virtually LOCKS IN PLACE government power and leftist control of the populace. And, it is a level of intrusion into our lives that would be unprecedented in all of history.

    Why on earth is it anyone's business other than the doctor and billing staff, what I pay for treatments, or what my insurance bills are. Or if I even feel the NEED for personal coverage at all???

    And this bruha about Medicaid would not be improved by a government mandate and/or control over the health issues most Americans have. Most of us ARE in point of fact satisfied with our current plans.

    How is covering 300 million Americans by force the solution to costs? Only rationing could force the issue to be as you suggest, if you think government control is the solution.

    The better way would be to cover merely catastrophic, the truly poor (not those making 75 grand a year or more who keep getting added back into the mix of stats about the "uninsured") etc.

    One of the current problems with the system as is, is that we attempt to cover too much via insurance, and THAT makes things expense because doctors will charge to the estimated upper limits for all services rendered. For most things you could and usually do get a discount for cash, for example.

    The problems with the Obama inspections of this issue, and his statements, go on and on...

    Adding trillions to the deficit, and then knowing that the CBO has already stated estimates of over 23 million of us who'd be pushed out of our current plans by default (even if not intentional from the administration's plans, in other words), is not the answer most of us are looking for here.

    The system needs tweaking, but if you're already worried about the unfunded liability of Medicaid or Medicare and the fact that government can't do or cover most anything it promises within a budget, then why in the hell are things made better with a system that moves from covering a few million of us to one that would attempt to cover 300 million?

    Grief.
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  14. And why is medicare unfunded? 2 wars raiding the medicare trust perhaps? The problems with insurance that you site is true with PRIVATE insurance. Medicare limits pay. Also, you would allow a for-profit bureaucrat between you and your doctor but not allow a non-profit bureaucrat to do the same? All because of your anti-socialist, pro-corporate, noo-fascist idealogy? You may not be concerned about premium costs but majority of americans are. And the next time you complain about government involvement, think about the roads you drive on, the water you drink, the air you breath, the safe medicine and food you ingest. I'd never entrust those to a profit-motivated entity.
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  15. Obviously anonymous is a proud government indoctrination center graduate. I would go so far as to say this person was even indoctrinated by loser University professors. This government can not even fulfill it's own Constitutionally required duties. I understand that is an issue that anonymous probably doesn't understand seeing that in the government indoctrination centers, the Constitution is not being taught as an important document. "When government expands, liberties and freedoms contract." The Constitution says the government will "promote the general welfare, provide for the common defense" neither of which this present government is doing. Oh, and by the way anonymous, promoting the general welfare does not mean that government should be in individual lives from cradle to grave.
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  16. "And the next time you complain about government involvement, think about the roads you drive on, the water you drink, the air you breath, the safe medicine and food you ingest"

    -- This is simply ridiculous. Roads/Infrastructure are a viable operation for the gov't. the cleanliness of our drinking water, another viable role, also safe food and medicine (General Welfare).
    The air we breathe? The last time I checked, the gov't does not create or clean air for human consumption.

    For those of you that are in love with the idea that the government will "save us", you are delusional. Whether you supported Bush, or support Obama, those are irrelevant points. The FACT OF THE MATTER is that the gov't will never run a program, of any sort, efficiently. Plain and simple.

    On a side note, for the 2 wars comment above... Obama is the one that deployed combat troops to Afghanistan, not Bush. Let's at least check our facts before we regurgitate the mindless bumper stickers of our lost media.
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  17. Emotionally Obama-care has "appeal", however the economic realities when rationally reviewed are in startling contrast to the rhetoric. This is all about power, the proper role of government, and what the "real" rights of citizens of the united states (think bill of rights).

    "In the end agreement that planning is necessary, together with the inability of the democratic assembly to agree on a particular plan, must strengthen the demand that the government, or some single individual, should be given powers to act on their own responsibility. It becomes more and more the accepted belief that, if one wants to get things done, the responsible director of affairs must be freed of the fetters of the democratic procedure." Hayek circa 1939

    Xeno
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  18. I have compared both plans (I actually read them) and out of the two - HR 3400 is a much better plan. And I know it won't take away the plan I already have and force my family on government run plan down the road... Because all you HR 3200 supporters, government run health care is already bankrupting this country and putting 300 million people on it will for sure bankrupt not only this country but our individual households as well.
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  19. Never should you ever expect the republican party to do a good job of running the coutry. They HATE Medicare, Social Security, Medicade, VA care....it's all socialism to them so why would ANYONE with a functioning brain think the reopublcians would give a rip about health care.
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  20. Partisan rhetoric is a great contributor to our woes as a people... If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
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